The American Soul

Our Founders Never Meant to Separate God from State

Jesse Season 4 Episode 255

What happens when a nation forgets its spiritual foundation? In this thought-provoking episode, we examine the undeniable Christian roots of America through the writings and declarations of our Founding Fathers themselves. 

Diving into 2 Thessalonians, we explore how Scripture provides discernment in an age of deception while challenging listeners to honestly assess their priorities. How much time do we devote to social media, entertainment, and trivialities compared to our spiritual growth? The answer reveals much about our values.

The historical record speaks clearly: 93% of Constitutional Convention delegates identified as Christians, and their faith directly shaped our founding documents and principles. We unpack how the phrase "separation of church and state" has been dramatically misinterpreted from Jefferson's original meaning, which was never intended to remove God from public life but to prevent government establishment of a national denomination.

Drawing compelling parallels between 1930s Europe and contemporary America, we examine how censorship, political correctness, and ideological intolerance threaten the foundations of liberty. John Adams' warning that "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people" takes on renewed significance as we witness the cultural consequences of abandoning our spiritual heritage.

This episode serves as both historical correction and spiritual wake-up call. By reconnecting with America's true founding principles, we can better understand why faith and morality aren't optional extras but essential foundations for preserving freedom. Share this episode with someone struggling to understand America's spiritual roots or questioning why faith matters in public life.

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Hey folks, this is Jesse Copeland, back with another episode of the American Soul Podcast. Hope y'all are doing well, wherever y'all are and whatever part of the day you're in. I appreciate y'all joining me and giving me a little bit of your time and a little piece of your day. I will try and use it wisely. For those of y'all who continue to share the podcast and tell others about it, spread the word, thank you so much. For those of y'all who continue to pray for me and for the podcast, thank you so much. Very, very grateful, desirous of those prayers, thank you. And for those of y'all who are new to the podcast, who are just joining us, thank you, glad you're here, hope you get something out of it, hope you enjoy it and hope you come back.

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Father, thank you for today. Thank you for you, father, and your Son Jesus Christ, and your Holy Spirit. Thank you for your love and your mercy, your grace and your forgiveness of sins. Thank you for sending your son Jesus Christ. Thank you that he was willing to come to die for our sins so we wouldn't have to. Thank you for all your many blessings, the ones we admit and the ones we don't, for whatever reason. Thank you, for those around us who you have put into our lives to love and to be loved by. To love and to be loved by, and give us the opportunity to exemplify your Son Jesus Christ. Help us to do that. Help us to love your Son, to follow his commands, to love you with our whole heart, mind, soul and strength, and to love our neighbors as ourselves. Be with our educators across the nation, around the world and the different countries who are listening. Be with those who are in public schools and private schools and those who homeschool. Give them wisdom, guidance, patience, endurance. Help us to teach our children not only in our homes, father, but as a nation, about you and your Son Jesus Christ. A center our education around you and your Word and your Son Jesus Christ.

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Be with those who are listening to the podcast right now, wherever they are, across America and around the world. Thank you for them, thank you for the time to record this podcast with them and please be with them. Be with their families, god, and bless them. Surround them with your angels. Protect us all from evil of any kind. Father, father, and help us to do your will. God. My words here, father, please, in your Son's name, we pray Amen.

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Have you made time for God today? Have you made time to read his word? Have you made time to pray? What have you done today? What have you given your time to?

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Or, if it's early in the morning when you're listening to this, what did you do yesterday? How much time did you give to sports? How much time did you give to your phone, to social media Facebook social media, facebook, snapchat, Instagram, tiktok X, whatever else is out there? How much time did you give to videos online YouTube? What about computer games? How much time did you give to TV, whether it's movies or a TV series? How much time did you work out yesterday?

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How much time did you give to your spouse, and did you do it with a positive attitude, if you spent any time with them, or was it a burden and a chore? Do you feel like your needs ought to be net because they're needs, but you feel like their needs are simply wants and desires, not really that imperative or important? You remember how much time hopefully, if you're married that you spent together and how excited you were to do that before you got married. Right, it wasn't a chore, it was something, man, you were excited to do any opportunity you got to spend time together and you both wanted to. You were both excited to spend time together. You altered your plans. You were very particular about the way you dressed, how clean your car was or not, for most of us at least. Why are you not still like that if you're not Now that you're married, now that you have this person?

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And again, before you tell me how busy you are married now that you have this person, and again before you tell me how busy you are and how little time you have for yourself, I would ask all the questions again that I just ask about relative to God and the Bible and praying in Jesus Christ. And maybe your answer is you didn't have any spare time yesterday, and I would submit then that if you didn't have any spare time yesterday with very few exceptions, you definitely need a shift in your priorities. If you're one of that very small percentage of people who truly didn't have any time to give to God or the Bible or your spouse to give to God or the Bible or your spouse, you desperately need a shift in your schedule and your life. Otherwise, go back and answer the questions honestly and, as my friend from years and years ago in college said think and then speak. In this case, write to yourself, obviously, but think first about whether you really don't have time or not, and then adjust. I wanted to read something real quick. Well, I'll tell you what We'll go through. We're going to be in 2 Thessalonians again today. We're going to go through chapter 2.

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Events prior to the Lord's second coming. Now, dear brothers and sisters, let us clarify some things about the coming of our Lord, jesus Christ, and how we will be gathered to meet him. Don't be so easily shaken or alarmed by those who say that the day of the Lord has already begun. Don't believe them, even if they claim to have had a spiritual vision, a revelation or a letter supposedly from us. Don't be fooled by what they say, for that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the one who brings destruction. He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call God and every object of worship. He will even sit in the temple of God claiming that he himself is God. Don't you remember that? I told you about all this when I was with you, and you know what is holding him back? For he can be revealed only when his time comes, for this lawlessness is already at work secretly, and it will remain secret until the one who is holding it back steps out of the way. Then the man of lawlessness will be revealed, but the Lord Jesus will slay him with the breath of his mouth and destroy him by the splendor of his coming. This man will come to do the work of Satan with counterfeit power and signs and miracles. He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them. So God will cause them to be greatly deceived and they will believe these lies. Then they will be condemned for enjoying evil rather than believing the truth.

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Believers should stand firm. As for us, we can't help but thank God for you. Dear brothers and sisters Loved by the Lord, we are always thankful that God chose you to be among the first to experience salvation. You to be among the first to experience salvation, a salvation that came through the Spirit who makes you holy and through your belief in the truth. He called you to salvation when we told you the good news. Now you can share in the glory of our Lord, jesus Christ. With all these things in mind, dear brothers and sisters, stand firm and keep a strong grip on the teaching we passed on to you both in person and by letter. Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and God, our Father, who loved us, and by His grace so a lot here, as always, right. I feel like I say that every day, I guess I should when I'm reading scripture Verse 2,. I feel like I say that every day I guess I should when I'm reading scripture Verse 2,.

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Don't be so easily shaken or alarmed by those who say that the day of the Lord has already begun. Don't believe them, even if they claim to have had a spiritual vision, a revelation or a letter supposedly from us. Don't be fooled by what they say, for that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the one who brings destruction. He will exalt and defy everything that people call God and every object of worship. He will even sit in the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God. I haven't run across these people personally, but I do know I've heard that there are some in the church who claim that we're already in, uh, the millennial kingdom, that Jesus has already come back. Um, and I just refer you to verse two Don't believe them, don't, don't believe them, don't, don't trust them. And scripture again here says look, you're going to know when that day is coming, because there's going to be a man that defies everything about God and he's even going to sit down in the temple and call himself God.

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And folks, I'm not a theologian, I don't have a degree in divinity, I'm not a priest or a pastor, I'm just everyday, average, simple reading the Bible. And it's why it's so important to read the Bible every day is to give us that discernment and that ability to tell truth from a lie, fact from fiction, even if it's people that claim to come from God and to be given his word. And I think that's really important. When you look at verse 9, right, the man will come. This man will come to do the work of Satan with counterfeit power and signs and miracles. He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction Because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them.

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Sometimes it's hard. You look at prophecy, you look at what's happened even in the Bible, and you think there's a lot of people that died by God's wrath and some folks I just I don't have answers to all the questions, right, as my pastor says so often, if we had all the answers, we'd be God, or God wouldn't be very interesting. I think the word he actually uses is great, so I'm not going to pretend to have all the answers, but one thing that comes up often is this comment here, or ones like them because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them. God offers Jesus Christ, his son, to every single person on the planet, but that doesn't mean that everybody accepts him.

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Some people don't want the truth that would save them, and that's hard to understand and it's confusing and it's a little bit scary, right, but there are people out there that simply do not want the truth, and it's not our job to identify those people. Well, I should say it's not our job to identify those people. Well, I should say it's not our job to condemn those people. It is kind of our job to identify those people and again, that's the discerning part, verse 11,. So God will cause them to be greatly deceived and they will believe these lies again because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them. Then they will be condemned for enjoying evil rather than believing the truth. You've got to look at that last part, folks, right. Why are they being condemned? Because they enjoyed evil rather than believing in the truth. It wasn't because God was sitting up there and he wanted anyone to choose to go away from him. That's the whole part of free will. That's our choice.

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We get to choose, see, it's one of the reasons I use that word so often, especially when you're talking about faith. I don't have any doubt that some people have seen miracles. Some people have seen angels, true supernatural. I haven't been one of them and that's bothered me off and on in my life sometimes. But the point is whether we choose right. Are we going to choose the truth? Are we going to choose to believe in Jesus Christ or are we going to choose evil? And it is a choice. It's up to us. We get to choose. And if we choose Jesus Christ, to acknowledge that he's the son of God, that he died for our sins, that God raised him from the dead, then we have eternal life. It's not any more or less complicated than that, verse 13,.

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As for us, we can't help but thank God for you. Dear brothers and sisters loved by the Lord, we are always thankful that God chose you to be among the first to experience salvation, a salvation that came through the spirit who makes you holy and through your belief in the truth. He called you to salvation when we told you the good news. Now you can share in the glory of our Lord, jesus Christ. Right, he's calling. Are we listening? If you haven't, I can't urge you to do anything more today than to choose Jesus Christ, to acknowledge him as the Son of God, to acknowledge that you're a sinner and that you need his sacrifice, his blood, his death on the cross, to atone for your sins. Acknowledge that God raised him from the dead and asked him into your life. Choose to follow him and in that moment, folks, you get eternal life. You get to enjoy Jesus Christ and God for eternity, and know that one day you will be with them, where there are no more tears and no more sadness and no more sorrow, no more pain, no more broken bodies, no more broken hearts. With all these things in mind, dear brothers and sisters, stand firm and keep a strong grip on the teaching we passed on to you both in person and by letter. Keep a strong grip on the teaching we passed on to you both in person and by letter. Do we keep a strong grip on the teaching of God?

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We've talked about this this year on the podcast the difference between how our founders, settlers, pilgrims, puritans viewed the Bible. What a treasure they viewed that as. How many sermons and preachings so many of that founding generation went to Multiple. For many of them, multiple each week for their entire lives. Do we treasure the Bible as God's word, as the link there that teaches us about God, about how to live? Is it the greatest treasure in our life, right? Do we understand it, as Lincoln said, I believe.

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Let me double check this quote real quick, because I know where it is this quote real quick because I know where it is. Abraham Lincoln, in regard for this great book, I have this to say it is the best gift God has given to man. All the good Savior gave to this world was communicated through this book, andrew Jackson. That book, sir, is the rock on which our republic rests. Do we treat the Bible this way? Now may the Lord. And then 16, 17,. Now may the Lord Jesus Christ himself and God, our Father, who loved us and by his grace gave us eternal comfort and a wonderful hope, comfort you and strengthen you in every good thing you do and say.

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I think I asked this on a previous podcast. Do we pray for peace for those we love Not to be taken out of the pain or the illness? There's nothing wrong with that. It's a wonderful prayer to ask people to be healed of injuries or illness or heartbreak, to ask God for relationships to be repaired. But, whether they are or not, do we pray for peace for those in those situations? Do we pray for them to realize that comfort? Do we pray for them to realize that comfort, eternal comfort and wonderful hope, that they have through Jesus Christ?

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All right, we got a few things today, kind of a hodgepodge. Some of it's going to go quickly and some not so much. First thing I want to do is I wanted to read a couple sections. Well, no, that's not true. I lied. I'm sorry. We're going to read a few things, so I haven't done this. We haven't been in it for a few, so I haven't done this. We haven't been in it for a few days, but great resources, phenomenal resources that I use frequently the Founder's Bible, edited by Dr David Barton, I believe from the Wall Builders Association.

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Patriot's Bible by Dr Richard G Lee, edited by him, and then the America's God and Country Encyclopedia of Quotes by William Federer. If you don't have a copy of those, highly, highly recommend them. Phenomenal books yeah, just highly recommend Great. I use them frequently on the podcast. I would say the Patriots Bible, if you're just kind of getting into this subject of of our soul as a nation and our ties to God, it's, it's a great kind of introduction. It's not the best source If you're looking to go back and try and find some of the original sources. The Patriots Bible or the Founders Bible, I think, does a better job of that, and the America's God and Country Encyclopedia of Quotations does a phenomenal job of that as well. So, at any rate, just some comments here and there.

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One of them it's hard to figure out what our greatest sins are today, but I would argue that, outside of outright rejection of God, the top two are going to be feminism and abortion, and you can kind of mush those all together, right, because rejection of God leads to feminism and abortion, and feminism. One of the fruits of feminism is rejection of God and abortion often. And then abortion just in and of itself, the modern equivalent or the moral equivalent of the 1800 slavery, except that it's just a lot worse. But all of this kind of ties into how we view human life. Do we view it as our Declaration said, as given to us by our Creator with inalienable rights? Because if those rights come from men and from the state this is always the reason that the left is so terrifying communist socialists, because their view of the world, that atheistic view, is that those rights come from the state and therefore they can be taken away anytime the state wants to, whether it's abortion, euthanasia taken away anytime the state wants to, whether it's abortion, euthanasia based on race, right. Look at South Africa right now. The roles have been swapped since 30 years ago, but the point is still a lot of the rights in South Africa today are based on skin color. You look at abortion across most of Western civilization, really the world as a whole. If you don't like this kid, if this child is a burden to you or they have Down syndrome or whatever your reason they're a girl and you really wanted a boy you can just kill them Because they have no inherent value, they have no right. In a leftist, communist, socialist view, you can't argue that there's an inherent right to life if you refuse to argue that those rights come from God, because then the rights are changeable. If they don't come from God, if they're not unchangeable, then they come from men and it's just whatever the men feel like that particular day of the week, right. That's why taking God out of our society, out of our institutions in America has been so destructive and is so, so dangerous, because then we're kind of like a ship without an anchor.

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A couple of things Also. I talk about this frequently on the podcast. I stumbled across this in the Patriots Bible. I think some of y'all would be interested. 1947, everson versus Board of Education. I talk about that decision a lot. 1947, Everson versus Board of Education. I talk about that decision a lot.

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They used the phrase wall of church and state from Thomas Jefferson. Right, separation of church and state. But they really meant separation of God and state. But even if they didn't, the letter that Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist preacher was written 13 years after the ratification of the Constitution and it's nowhere in the sentence in his letter was the First Amendment has erected a wall between church and state. The wall must be kept high and impregnable. We could not approve the slightest breach. But it's nowhere in the Constitution, it's not in the Declaration of Independence, and again it was written 13 years after the Constitutional Convention. Jefferson wasn't there, he had to rely on other firsthand accounts. But he wasn't saying what the left said anyway. He was never saying to separate God out of the state. He was saying to keep particular denominations out of the state, from the state approving of particular Christian denominations. And they weren't trying to pretend that all denominations or all faiths were equal either.

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The other thing that's kind of interesting here that I have forgotten multiple times is in 1954, the IRS tax code was revised so that if you were a 501C right, a nonprofit organization, or a 5013, you could no longer endorse or oppose political candidates. You couldn't even indirectly give people a clue as to about who you opposed and who you endorsed and that's modern folks, that's from the 50s on and who you endorsed, and that's modern folks, that's from the 50s on. And we desperately, when you look back at the First Great Awakening and the Second Great Awakening, we needed those men in the pulpit leading Right, and one of the things that gives the lie right. The simple things are the fact that the presidents take their oath of office on the Bible and that in so many oaths we have in God we trust, right. If we were supposed to have this separation of God and state, then there's no way in the world we would have God built into our oaths. And you look at some of the state seals of Rhode Island and God we hope, right. You look at Ohio with God, all things are possible. The motto for the state of Ohio, right. How could we possibly? And God we hope for Rhode Island is the seal. How could we possibly have those things built into our nation if our founders had wanted separation of God and state? Right? Let's see, I've got one more. No, I lied, we're going to, I'm going to do a couple more things and we'll see how far we get today. So we're going to read a little, a couple of quotes out of the. I go back to it every once in a while.

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The Manchester William Manchester wrote a while. The Manchester William Manchester wrote a biography, a trilogy on William Churchill, winston, sorry, winston Churchill. That's the second time I've said that in a few weeks, I don't know why. And the second book in the trilogy is called alone and it covers the thirties basically leading up to world war two. And it's just fascinating to me because it has so many parallels, so many, uh, between today in America and the 1920s and thirties in Europe. You look at citizens that support the left and the comparisons between citizens that supported Nazi Germany or the communists, for that matter, whether in Britain or other countries across Europe, no-transcript and devastation of trench warfare. We don't have that excuse. Our excuse is that we're too lazy and we're too used to an opulent lifestyle that we don't want to upset, that we don't want to rock the boat. So there's a couple and just because I don't want to get in trouble for copyright infringement here, I'm going to kind of paraphrase this. There's a, a paragraph in here. If you have the book, at least the hardback, it's on page 430.

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And again, this is out of alone, which covers 1932 to 1940, by William Manchester, printed by little Brown, and it was talking about the fact that Churchill was starting or was losing a lot of his income. So a lot of his income, almost all of his income. Well, all of it did come from writing, I think from what I've read here and he was pretty condemning of Hitler and Hitler didn't like that, and so, the larger the influence of Germany spread during the 1930s, everywhere it spread, they would no longer print articles in those papers that was condemning of Hitler and the Nazis, and so Churchill lost more and more of his source of income. So a couple of little sentences just to kind of give you some context. Here In Romania, ravez, I believe is how you say the name wrote to Churchill in May, said that 22 newspapers were Poland was an ally of Britain, but Warsaw wouldn't allow publication of his piece or pieces that were acknowledging the Nazi threat to Poland. There were a lot of others who were having the same problem, but obviously, as Churchill said, this was a serious matter.

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A net is closing around our print through fear of the left, through political correctness, and there's a difference and I'm going to probably do this pretty poorly, folks but there's a difference between going off and chasing every conspiracy theory and having people ignore you and speaking truth out of the Bible and have people censor you. For example, there's only two genders, male and female. How many people got condemned by that over the last 20 years, 10 years, homosexuality is a sin. How many people were taken to court because they refused to go along? Can you imagine if somebody was dragged into court because they refused to help somebody steal? Like if a baker had a thief, come in and say, hey, I want you to make a cake and we're going to use it at this party celebrating robbing this bank, and the baker said no. Could you imagine them being taken into court because they refused to celebrate and support a bank robbery? We need to remember this, folks. I said it in a previous podcast, one of the last few the left isn't going anywhere.

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Islam look at Islam around the world right now. Look at what happens to Christians. Look at what is happening to Christians the world right now. Look at what happens to Christians. Look at what is happening to Christians in Syria right now. Don't think for a second that Muslims in America, if in power. Look at what's going on in Britain right now. The UK has their gaining power. If you think for a second that Muslim citizens in America, if they were in control, would not be persecuting those who were not Muslim, you're not looking at history, you're not looking at actual experience. And the same thing for the left. If you think for a second to the left, if they get back in control socialist, communist, leftist that they're not going to do exactly what the Nazi socialist party, what the USSR did, what China, the CCP, is currently doing Again, it's just. Those are real world examples that happen every single time.

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Leftist, socialist, communist get in power and the ability, freedom of speech, goes away and people say, well, we've got a champion. Freedom of speech, absolutely, absolutely true. But what grounds? Freedom of speech Say, say, these are just a couple sentences from a previous paragraph or previous page. This is page 428. They were talking about everybody in the country at this particular point wanted Churchill appointed to the cabinet, some role in the government, and Churchill was just absolutely against it. Because people, right, this is a quote from Marshall Cornwall talking about Krozik, I believe and I don't.

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Krosik was a, he was the Reich finance minister, a member of the German cabinet. He said that Hitler does not take the prime minister and Lord Halifax seriously, but he places Churchill in the same category as Roosevelt. Mere fact of giving him, churchill, a leading ministerial post would convince Hitler that you really mean to stand up to him, right? The problem is, chamberlain didn't believe right, and this is Manchester's sentence. This is a quote from William Manchester who wrote the book. But Chamberlain still did not believe in standing up to him, to Hitler. All evidence to the contrary. He remained convinced that if the Fuhrer were treated with generosity, he could become Britain's best friend. All evidence to the contrary. During the 20s and early 30s and now, a lot of the population had changed their opinion. Chamberlain still had. But this is absolutely the problem that we have in a large percentage of the population in America today is this idea that we can peacefully coexist With the left, with citizens who support the left, that we can peacefully coexist with citizens who support Islam.

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The tenets of leftism and the tenets of Islam are directly counter the liberty. You can't have liberty when leftism is in control or Islam is in control. And you just need to look around the world. Look at how much liberty do you have in communist China right now? How much liberty do you have in communist North Korea? How much liberty did you have in socialist and the Nazi party? How much liberty did you have in a socialist in the Nazi party? How much liberty did you have again, socialism with the USSR or communism? Whichever way you want to roll. It's just interesting to me that the name socialist is in the title. How much liberty do you have in Iran? How much liberty do you have in Nigeria, in Syria, as the Muslims are taking over the vacuum that was left by another Muslim, by Assad? Right, I think he was Muslim, maybe I have that wrong, don't hold me to that. How much liberty do you have, sadly, even in the UK today, where the left and Islam are both in control? They don't go together, they're mutually exclusive.

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And just a little side note here I wrote this when I was reading through this book. All Evidence to the Contrary. We need to look at the actions of leftism, the actions of the left, of Islam, of Muslims. It also applies to our marriages, though. Folks. Our spouse is going to look at our actions. If our actions don't say that we love them, then why would they believe that we love them? If our actions don't say that we love them, then why would they believe that we love them? They wouldn't, they shouldn't. So just a little side note there. I was going to get into Reagan's second inaugural address today, but I think instead of that, I was also going to read through some quotes that we read through every once in a while, and so I'm going to do that instead.

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And one thing that was right next to this little section, they have a section in the Patriots Bible labeled Faith of Our Founders. If you have the book it's in that section they talk about the delegates to the Constitutional Convention. Because you hear often from the left that we were founded as a secular, as a pagan, and they say democracy, which we aren't a democracy, we're a republic. But either way, right, you look at the delegates, you look at their open association with the church, universal, not a particular denomination 28 were Episcopalians, 8 were Presbyterians, 7 were Congregationalists, 2 Lutherans, 2 Dutch Reformed, 2 Methodists, 2 Roman Catholics, 1 Unknown, 3 Deists. 93% of its members were Christian, and even the Unknown and the deists were influenced by the Bible. Right, everybody at that point was influenced by the Bible.

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So how in the world are we supposed to believe what the left says today, that we were founded as a pagan, secular republic? John Adams, the general principles upon which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God. Samuel Adams, he who made all men hath made the truth, truths necessary to human happiness, obvious to all. Our forefathers opened the Bible to all right. There were states and churches that didn't want people to have the Bible. Again, how important do we hold the Bible today compared to our forefathers?

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This is a quote that's often attributed to Patrick Henry. I think there's some people out there that claim that it's not his, that it came out of a magazine from the 50s. I always am very hesitant to believe the left. Today, if there's a quote that's been around, especially for decades and decades, if not a century plus, then the left suddenly says oh, they didn't say that. The burden on proof there is on the left to prove that they didn't say it, which is going to be pretty hard to do anyway. But there's always a chance that a quote got lost in time, and so if it's been around for a while, folks generally I would go ahead and stick with that, as opposed to what people say today, especially on the internet. So this quote is attributed, even if Patrick Henry didn't say it. It's still a valid quote. It's true.

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It cannot be emphasized too clearly and too often that this nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians, not on religion but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. Charles Carroll, who was a signer of the Declaration Without morals, a republic cannot subsist any length of time. They, therefore, who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments. You hear that refrain echoed a lot of times, folks, that people who want to get rid of Christianity are undermining the foundation of morals, the only the best security for free institutions, free governments. Again, john Adams, our constitution, our form of government was made only for a moral and religious people, a Christian people. You can't have our form, our constitutional republic, right, if you want to say it that way. Or democratic republic, or however you want to say it, you can't have our republic. You can't have liberty, without those principles of Christ. This doesn't work.

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Henry Knox, right? Fort Knox is named after. To the supreme head of the universe, to the great and tremendous Jehovah, who created the universal frame of nature, worlds and systems in number infinite. To this awfully sublime being do I resign my spirit with unlimited confidence of his mercy and protection. There's so many of these folks, so much evidence of the faith of our founders and that it was so important to them.

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You look at some of their wills, which we've done, some of their final testimonies, which we've done, and they talk so much about their faith. Why would they talk so much about their faith and then set up a country? Why would their faith in God and Jesus Christ be so important to them? And then they would set up this new country that they risk so much for with the idea of making sure that God and Jesus Christ didn't have anything to do with that country? It doesn't make any sense. It makes no logical sense. God bless y'all. God bless your families. God bless your marriages, if you're married. God bless America. God bless your nation. Wherever you are around the world listening, we'll talk to y'all again real soon. Folks Looking forward to it.